Wet Hot American Summer

Celebrate the last day of camp by finding summer love with Wet Hot American Summer (Paul Rudd, Molly Shannon, Christopher Meloni, Bradley Cooper, Elizabeth Banks, Janeane Garofalo, David Hyde Pierce, Ken Marino, Amy Poehler, Michael Showalter, Michael Ian Black).

(This episode contains spoilers)

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* As of July 2022 in the USA

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Transcript

Fish: 0:00

Even Beth, the camp director tries to find love with the quirky associate professor. For sure. The quirky, the quirky, quirky. Quirky

Cayleigh: 0:13

is to go to the hospital,

Fish: 0:15

the quirky

Jackie: 0:17

there's a glitch

Cayleigh: 0:22

Hello, and welcome to couples, a podcast where two couples the goods and the fishes Hi. Give their commentary on a fine pairings movies.

Fish: 0:37

Check the expiration date, because you're about to get spoiled.

Cayleigh: 0:40

Welcome back to another episode of our summer series. This week, we looked at Wet Hot American Summer. And our rapid fire is Did any of you Okay, so I have to like it's got to be kind of a two parter, just to cover my bases, which is relevant to the last movie? Um, if you had a summer job, what was it? You know? What was it like? And if you didn't have a summer job? What summer job do you wish you would have had? I'm Cayleigh. And I did one summer at Ride the Ducks have Seattle queso. I lived in Seattle for a summer duck boats. And I was just trying I was like, I need money, cities expensive. Looked at some seasonal touristy things, and ended up working at Write the Docs, it was actually a really fun job. I feel like summer jobs tend to have that like they're a little bit more fun, you know. And a little bit more chill. And that was totally the vibes of this. So

Fish: 2:01

this is David like I mentioned before, for a couple of summers. In undergrad I did landscaping. It was really fun because I was with a group of friends. We all got these cool, like gas powered carts, we would zoom around in and we did our job. We did a lot of weed racking but we also just drove around and dicked around. And if everyone kind of looked around, it was wondering what to do with kind of give this little wave symbol. And that just means we would do laps, we would just do like a giant lap on the hole. Which would take a good 15 minutes probably in these carts to kind of do a whole the whole campus. Pretty good sized campus. But just one good time and we listened to the radio, classic rock and oldies and we would always call in. So anytime they had like, hey, you know, be the ninth caller now and you'll be on the air, we'll ask you a quiz question. And if you get it right, you know, you'll win tickets, right? So anytime they did that we would always try to call in and there'd be like six or seven or eight of us just call in at the same time. So we actually got on air like at least once or twice. And we won tickets to Alice Cooper. Nice. I think one friend did but he couldn't go or give it to us. So me and another buddy got to go to an Alice Cooper show front row and meet them after the show. We have a backstage pass pretty cool.

Nate: 3:25

Very Wayne's World party.

Jackie: 3:27

Party, all through high school, Mr. Jackie, all through high school and most of college I was a girls camp counselor summer. And it was super fun. I wasn't super girly, but it was like you did a modeling show at one point. Then you did nails so I had to learn how to paint kids nails. A lot arts and crafts pool days. Yes. It was actually a lot of fun. I have fond memories of it. And then you'd have these like big field trips with all the other camps. So there'd be like athletic camps to get the kids being like, Oh, do you have a crush on that counselor? Or there's a lot of that.

Fish: 4:11

Did you

Cayleigh: 4:12

campers shipping you with other people?

Jackie: 4:16

I mean, it was a girls camp. So they were playing into that, like have your summer romance. But then in college, I also lived out in Seattle, and my summer job out there was working for a place called Northwest track. So it was working with all North American animals. Oh, cool. It was super fun. You got a lot of tourists because the the animals I mean, you had bears and you hadn't Wolverines. But you also had like raccoons and beavers. But that was an awesome summer job because we lived in this little house in the woods that was filled with daddy long legs and occasional Cougar sightings, but it was so Oh, cool. That's a great summer.

Nate: 5:01

Right? This is neat. During high school I had normal jobs like during the year and everything that wouldn't be considered like a summer job. So I worked at Subway worked at a pizza place. But I really had my first like summer job where I just did that. And then went back to school in college. So I worked at the lumberyard at Menards for two summers, so we did receiving so any shipments to the store we we would help receive. And then also we'd put you know, we stock lumber in the they call it the board store out back of Menards which, if we have any national or international listeners cutlets listening, we we have a regional hardware and lumber store in the Midwest called Menards. Maynard's there Yeah. So it was a lot of fun. drove a gas powered forklift, unloaded trucks did all that kind of stuff. And usually the fun stuff would be somebody doing something just maybe not the smartest on a forklift or a powered piece of equipment. I saw people unloading one side like it was a truck a flatbed full of bricks, and they unloaded one side completely first and the truck was very very side heavy and then tipped over. So the truck the trailer tipped over on its side and I saw another person pulling rocksalt on off of a fourth level rack and it got caught on a piece of metal it ripped a bag open now it's raining rock salt over everybody down below. So yeah, it was a lot a lot of fun. And, you know, just add a little bit of rain outside and it gets slick and you're driving a propane powered forklift and it's very, very scary.

Cayleigh: 6:50

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Fish: 6:53

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Cayleigh: 6:54

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Fish: 6:57

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Jackie: 7:01

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Cayleigh: 7:03

But we could mail it in. All right, so let's kick it to a plot

Fish: 7:09

what plot it's the last day of camp, and everyone's last chance to have a summer romance before heading home. Even bet the camp director tries to find love with the quirky Associate Professor of astrophysics, as she juggles, keeping the counselors in order, and preps for the big talent show. Meanwhile, the counselors attempt to lose their virginity trained to be better men with the cook and is talking can of vegetables, and having secret marriage ceremonies by the lake. When the astrophysics associate Messer discovers that a piece of NASA Skylab is going to fall directly on the camp. he enlists some dungeon master's to help him avert the crisis. Oh yeah. Flawless. Wet Hot American Summer was released on July 27 2001. And with a budget of between two and 5 million went on to make over $295,000.

Jackie: 8:17

That's true.

Fish: 8:17

That's a flop.

Jackie: 8:19

It was

Fish: 8:20

directed and CO written by David Wain. And CO written by Michael. Michael show Walter. Starring Janine garofolo David Hyde Pierce, Mike Michael show Walter Marguerite Moreau, Paul Rudd, Zak Orth, Christopher Milani ad miles Molly Shannon Gideon Jacobs, Ken Marino, Joe Lo Truglio Michael Ian Black Bradley Cooper, Amy Poehler, Elizabeth Banks, and more

Cayleigh: 8:51

for a flop. So many careers started

Jackie: 8:53

Oh, yeah, what

Fish: 8:55

the fuck yeah, a lot.

Jackie: 8:57

And it was a flop but it became a cult. Yes.

Fish: 9:02

To me 5000 wasn't actually

Jackie: 9:05

air anywhere. Like it just aired in New York for

Fish: 9:09

nobody. Still nobody watched it didn't get any traction. No one cared

Jackie: 9:13

who had never seen this before.

Cayleigh: 9:15

So I hadn't seen this. I watched there was like a mini series. And I tried watching that the first

Jackie: 9:25

day of camp and yeah, 10 years later, and admittedly,

Cayleigh: 9:30

like I couldn't get into the series, and I don't think I could get into it even having watched this. I think the premise of the series is just a little too out there

Fish: 9:40

for me, but 10 years after might be

Cayleigh: 9:42

interesting. Yeah, the 10 years after when I haven't seen that so I would, I would I would check that out. I don't think I could watch the first day you go first

Jackie: 9:49

to camp is funny because they all look significantly older. Yeah, like I

Cayleigh: 9:53

get that that's the stick, but it's just like I don't I can't. I'm not bored and lettering. But I really enjoyed this So I don't know why I went the route, probably because Netflix had that and didn't have this. Because yeah, Netflix doesn't have this movie.

Jackie: 10:10

Isn't it strange, super annoying, weird. Really annoying when they own the series? Yeah, have the movie.

Cayleigh: 10:16

So I think that's why I want it. I think I wanted to watch the original source material because I wanted to watch the show because it has all these stars. That was all these, you know, heavy hitters who I love. And then like I say, I turned it on. And I was like, yeah, so I had low expectations for this and was very pleasantly surprised by it. I very much liked this. The

Jackie: 10:39

title is so misleading, because I think your title Yeah, I think I watched it in college for the first time. And I had been so put off by the title that I never wanted to watch it.

Cayleigh: 10:49

so I feel like it really works. Because the whole I feel like vibe is supposed to be that it's like those, you know, 80s You know, 70s and 80s movies where it's really raunchy, and you know, full of high jinks and everyone's making out and smoking pot and stuff. And it totally sounds like the title of one of those movies. Yeah. Which, which we don't let you know, that's not our doing. Make sense? Why the title doesn't sound enticing. Yes. And so yeah,

Jackie: 11:20

I get it. It's even to this day, it feels like a movie I shouldn't love. Because there's plenty of

Nate: 11:26

some of that you get some of the hygiene, like the typical teen comedy. You get some of that,

Cayleigh: 11:32

but I feel like it's self aware. I feel like because I don't like those kinds of movies either. And the whole reason this works for me is because it's making fun of those. It's a farce of that genre.

Nate: 11:43

Yeah, it's farther up than Paul read. Yes.

Cayleigh: 11:47

Which one thing that was really cool to see is that prior to this movie, Paul read was only like, the side boyfriend character throwaway to the main characters love interest. This was his first opportunity to kind of flex his comedy chops and break into that. What a delight. To see and amazing. It's so bad.

Fish: 12:12

dragging his feet

Jackie: 12:15

down. He apparently like jokes that he doesn't think he got paid for this movie. But that also says that might not be a joke. might have slipped, like between the cracks.

Cayleigh: 12:28

That's so funny,

Fish: 12:29

because filming and producing was such a mess. And yeah,

Jackie: 12:34

he's just he's so good at those. Because when he does that little like, thing with this team. I can't even do it justice. I don't even know how to describe it. But I laugh every time.

Cayleigh: 12:46

Paul Rudd is great at playing terrible people and US loving them anyway. Yes,

Jackie: 12:51

yes.

Cayleigh: 12:52

That's his whole.

Jackie: 12:54

I'm writing my gournal. Sorry, but my thoughts.

Nate: 13:01

Can you talk to you for a second? Okay. Second saw the game over? I thought you said a second. Get out of here.

Jackie: 13:09

Yeah, the cast is just amazing. There's so many people I love. I love Christopher Maloney. That's why I made sure to get his name in there. Because in college, we watched so much lawn or SVU. Yes, if someone had it up, like have it going in our common room. And we all heard the done. We'd all just walk from our room. And I kept thinking how great it would be to splice that in after every time he says something like, I'm gonna go out the fridge dawned on me.

Fish: 13:41

He did awesome in this movie.

Nate: 13:43

And they start they start very early in the movie, and I didn't catch it the firt This is the second time I've seen it. And so when he shows up behind the cooks assistant, right or the other the other cook, you know, the conversation ends. His assistant is like, oh, maybe you should go talk to him. And he's talking about the can of vegetables, but you don't get that the king of vegetables talks to him until like, three quarters of the way through the movie. Yeah, that

Fish: 14:12

was a great character.

Nate: 14:13

Yes. And John H. Benjamin has the can of vegetables.

Jackie: 14:16

Yes, yes. Bob's Burgers and archer glass. very

Cayleigh: 14:21

distinctive voice. Yes. And the problem is that the first time I was ever exposed to his work was the Demetri Martin show important things with Demetri Martin on Comedy Central. And it's not voicework there. It's him and his face. Yeah. playing roles. So I can't I tried to get into archer. I couldn't because I'm just he has such a distinctive voice and a very unique look. Yeah, so I'm just picturing the actual actor and I can't I couldn't ever immerse into that Show. Fun thing

Nate: 14:55

is like I got into Archer before I knew what he looked. Yeah. And they do a bunch of Joe oaks about what John H. Benjamin actually looks like. You know, because archers the secret agent, right? All right. So they do it the other way. And that plays with me because I didn't know him beforehand.

Cayleigh: 15:12

That makes sense.

Nate: 15:14

But yeah, I feel like this movie does, it pokes fun at a lot of the tropes and things you see repeated in the teen comedies, the stereotypical teen comedy, especially of the 90s, like American Pie, and other ones, but some of the camp movies to the 80s, like the summer camp movies and stuff like that.

Fish: 15:34

But they even turn some of those stereotypes on their head, like the ones seen where they're like, Hey, we gotta get our friend, you know, laid this summer and then they see him and the guy getting married. Like, ah, they kind of call him a bit of a slur like a gay slur. And then we think like, amen. These guys are assholes. But then one minute later, they're given him a crate and barrell couch. They flip the script and they're very supportive. And okay, here's this gift. This is our whole summer paycheck. Here's your couch.

Cayleigh: 16:09

I think it's almost like I don't know, maybe I'm off base, but I didn't expect to get a sex scene with two men. So like, cut and dry. And it it? I get that it's sort of played for laughs but not really.

Jackie: 16:28

Not really. Yeah,

Fish: 16:29

it's picking the ball. Yeah.

Cayleigh: 16:32

But the joke isn't like, Oh, haha, he's gay. This is gay sex. It's just more like subverting your expectations, and then kind of diving into them. And the way that that's you don't get you know, scenes like that. Even. Even today. I can't think of any time I've, you know, been given that. And so it was like, Oh, wow, this is pretty ahead of its time. Yeah. So much so that we don't even

Jackie: 17:01

Bradley Cooper. Yeah. And he said that Michael Ian Black was his favorite onscreen kiss I

Fish: 17:08

think you meant it to.

Nate: 17:11

And oh, it was gonna say that the every scene with pohler and Cooper where she's saying something and he's just grunts in the background like, No, I'm the director or like, correctly. Yeah.

Cayleigh: 17:27

Amazing.

Jackie: 17:28

Yeah, I agree. It's some weird you expect that whole? That it's turning the expectations on the head, but you expect all of that to go poorly. Yeah. Or even be made fun of Yeah.

Fish: 17:40

What I thought was kind of interesting to see one of the main characters Koop, the kind of nerdy guy was one of the CO writers of the film and kind of based a lot of it on some of his past like camp experiences and stuff like that. But they had a hard time getting this film funded and produced, I think, until they got a couple bigger names on board. Like when David hyde pierce managed to come on board. You know, I think a lot of people don't from Frasier. Yeah. He was the miles right? Yep. I never watched that much Frasier, but I was always upset because in the award season, Frasier always beat Seinfeld for like the awards. Shows like Frasier won so many awards year after year for whatever main awards are given out for TV shows. And they always just beat out Seinfeld, and I was always so bummed. I weirdly

Jackie: 18:31

loved Frasier in junior high, and that was not the target audience. No.

Cayleigh: 18:38

It's funny. So it was always on when I lived in Seattle in the gym. I would go work out and it was always on and I don't think it was like a self aware thing. I don't think they were like, because it's not I was I wasn't living like a tourist area or something like that. I think it was just, they had a certain channel on and just happened to be that my workout time was the same time that Fraser aired on that channel. But it just felt so weird that I was watching Frasier at the gym in Seattle, and I lived there. Yeah, yeah, I watched it like with my parents when it was airing to

Fish: 19:10

like to the theme. So

Cayleigh: 19:13

what's funny, though, so they had financial trouble, but in order to get their shooting location, they told the it was a real operating summer camp

Fish: 19:22

and they had to wander in Pennsylvania. Yeah, because the President didn't go there.

Nate: 19:27

I went to a different camp to cut it.

Cayleigh: 19:33

But they told the owners of the camp like this is going to be just like an like, like a wholesome all American movie, a family movie about camp and summer. And then the owners were horrified when they saw the final cut of the film.

Jackie: 19:49

That's amazing. It was raining. They all got drunk there too. That was a giant party. Oh my God. They lived there.

Fish: 19:57

Yeah, the cast lived on the in the kitchen.

Jackie: 20:00

Oh, wow. Which hadn't been so fun. Yeah.

Fish: 20:02

So it was like 20 shooting. It was fun, but they said they had to make up things to do because this was like, you know, pretty, like smartphone days and stuff, right? This was 2001 it came out. So they were filming in like 2000 or 99 even. And there was a Walmart, but it was like 45 minutes away cheese. So kind of like, Hey, we're going into town, right? Like it's a fun trip. Kind of like the show in the movie. Yeah. When they would get like, movie posts or like, band posters, like they add and sync and Britney Spears that they would put all over their

Jackie: 20:35

walls.

Fish: 20:37

And yeah, I guess there was a lot of a lot of partying and excessive drinking happening.

Jackie: 20:44

Yes, summer camp for adults. Yeah, yes,

Cayleigh: 20:47

that's a thing. Yeah.

Jackie: 20:48

It sounds really fun. Especially with that cast.

Fish: 20:52

And this was supposed to take place in 1981. Did you mentioned that yet? did not? Did it feel like the early 80s? I don't know.

Jackie: 21:02

They're the dress, I guess. A little bit? Yeah,

Fish: 21:06

every time something bad happened. On Polaroid shift, he would take the kid that saw what happened and just drive. cars moving. I gotta get rid of this evidence. Give me Give me four to five minutes on the back.

Cayleigh: 21:21

I guess the original storyline was that he was gonna, like murder the kids.

Fish: 21:27

That's that's that's too much well,

Cayleigh: 21:29

and so the screenwriters dad had read the script and said like, No, you can't do that. Like I can't. I'm not going to like sleep at night as your father if you put that kind of terrible,

Jackie: 21:43

that would be pretty dark

Cayleigh: 21:44

out into the world. And so he changed it to the just dropping them off in the woods.

Jackie: 21:50

They start rolling.

Fish: 21:53

Peel off, keep going.

Jackie: 21:56

When Ken Marino's bed, were they all of them are on the raft. They're about to go over the fall.

Fish: 22:06

He's the only one who knows how to navigate his falls. We got to get him. And then when he's chased him down on a motorcycle, and he's like, keeps out running him and there's a bale of hay and then he got me

Jackie: 22:17

It's my absolute favorite bit when we're out walking or running. Sometimes I'll do that if there's a stick in the sidewalk. I'll pause and I'll look dramatically around. Really jump over it.

Fish: 22:30

Excellent motion did it

Jackie: 22:32

was my all time favorite bit.

Nate: 22:36

Yeah, so I just looked it up to Wanda Pennsylvania. It's not too far from where we lived out there. Actually close to Scranton. So

Cayleigh: 22:43

Scranton won the electric city. Scranton. What the electric city? Car and the compact spa. Spa. Spa. Spa. Office.

Jackie: 22:59

How about Elizabeth Banks with the barbecue sauce?

Fish: 23:03

I think she's called barbecue girl. I think that's what she's listed as. It's funny. That was that was kind of nasty. That was like all over face. Just want to make out with me. Oh, yeah. Fucking sauce on

Nate: 23:15

the bowties it tastes like hot dogs.

Jackie: 23:18

Like burger or you taste like it's pretty foul. I don't want to do this anymore. Yeah, you taste like a burger. I don't like you anymore.

Cayleigh: 23:26

Oh my god.

Fish: 23:28

She's always trying to kiss people with food.

Cayleigh: 23:30

That's her kink. Don't kink shame. No.

Fish: 23:33

That's just funny. Like that if I'm gonna laugh at it. So apparently, like literally almost every day of filming it rained.

Jackie: 23:42

Yeah, and a lot of the scenes Yeah, like

Fish: 23:45

when they're inside. It's raining outside. Or

Jackie: 23:48

even when they're on like the front Stoops. You'll see it behind them.

Cayleigh: 23:54

They film in spring because they kind of jokingly referred to it as cold wellspring.

Jackie: 24:00

It was winter.

Cayleigh: 24:01

And then also fall. Yep,

Jackie: 24:03

a little bit of summer.

Fish: 24:05

All of the above. Interestingly enough, during that opening scene, where it's like a campfire party scene, it's pouring rain during that scene, but they were on such a tight schedule and tight budget. They couldn't keep shooting things. But apparently, when you're filming when you're making a movie, if you don't light the scene a certain way you won't see rain in a scene. So you didn't just like you can't even tell. So yeah, if you look at that scene, you can't like they look kind of sweaty or wet or whatever. But you can't see that it's raining. Just based off, you know, rain doesn't really show up on film unless you light it a certain way apparently.

Cayleigh: 24:43

Well, that makes sense, actually, because when they do rain scenes in film, like probably before they got real fancy with lighting. They would put milk in the water. Yeah, too. So that would show up on the film, otherwise it won't show up. If we ever do sing into In the rain we'll talk more about that but that's the iconic scene and that was disgusting because it was like milky water.

Fish: 25:09

Yeah, how we're seeing it in the mill because there's some there's there's even a lot of scenes where you see them like shivering when they're outside or like, you know, when they're in the water, their bathing suit or whatever, like,

Jackie: 25:23

they hit it better than squints.

Cayleigh: 25:24

Of course once you do not have any body fat to handle that situation at all. So you worked as a camp counselor Jackie, was this reflective of your experience

Jackie: 25:37

identical? Exactly. Exactly the same. Mine was not overnight camp. Oh, okay. I did go to overnight camp a few years though. But I don't know what was going on with the counselors. No, yeah,

Fish: 25:51

maybe you don't want to know. Oh, did you guys find the scene funny or maybe too over the top when they go into town and then they just like,

Jackie: 26:00

I love it

Nate: 26:00

for an hour

Fish: 26:01

you go get Yeah, they're gone for an hour. Yeah, they go get they find some random guy in the alley. They get drugs. And then they end up in like some correct and or something some heroin.

Nate: 26:11

Hilarious. And

Jackie: 26:12

then when they get back and they'll just lean against the barn. Yeah.

Nate: 26:16

The third time out or something?

Fish: 26:19

Like a man that loves going to town just an hour trip.

Jackie: 26:24

So good. I love it.

Fish: 26:26

Yeah, that was funny. But it kind of reminds me when I was when I was a scout when we were went to Philmont did you go to film?

Nate: 26:32

I did.

Fish: 26:33

Did you go to town ever?

Nate: 26:35

We did one. Yeah. We went we went to town like one day one

Fish: 26:39

day? Yeah, it was kinda like the same experiences like Oh, who wants to go to town? I do. I do. And then you could go and like we had some like, you know, food other than the camp food wasn't bad when you were in base camp, but it's like, oh, I want real food. Like, get some Mexican food or whatever. And go do some shopping, have some fun stuff. Kind of the same stuff they showed in the movie we just did in town and find

Nate: 26:58

a guy in the alley. Nino's get some drug. Yeah, I think we did town at the end of our trip. So we were all ready for it. Because we hiked 75 miles so you get trail food for 10 days.

Fish: 27:09

I think we did 110 miles.

Jackie: 27:13

On a one opera there.

Fish: 27:15

I would have rather gone a little less intense. You can enjoy the experience a little more.

Jackie: 27:20

I will say as a camp counselor. Watching kids in the pool was stressful. Like trying to make sure kids don't drown.

Cayleigh: 27:27

Yeah, fuck that.

Fish: 27:28

Did you do the buddy system? Oh, yeah. I mean

Cayleigh: 27:40

you weren't just

Nate: 27:42

making out with

Jackie: 27:47

the with the athletic counselors. Now just watching. Sometimes you had to get in the pool. And in high school, you're like, No, I don't want to get my hair wet.

Cayleigh: 27:57

Yeah, I've never been responsible for a child and my whole life. I've never babysat. I've never counseled I've never I'm the youngest sibling.

Fish: 28:08

Wonder you hate kids so much. Kids. I just

Cayleigh: 28:11

don't know what to do with them.

Jackie: 28:14

I do. You know, I have my most stressful camp story. I was trying to think of save it. No, she's when I was a counselor. When I was a counselor. It was one of the last days of camp. They were big groups. You had an assistant. So I had an assistant counselor who was new that year. But we had this girl who kept getting bullied by the kids. And whenever that was at the pool, whenever we turn away apparently the kids would like polar hair and like Yeah, so we had the parents. It was terrible. The parents reached out and felt horrible that we weren't seeing this. And I did witness it. We were walking to ice cream one day and she had had like a cut on her arm or something. And when the girls goes, Oh, get away. You have AIDS. Yeah, I don't know if we might have to cut this story. But eggs, AIDS. Oh, they're in they were maybe 1112 year olds, but they so then this girl starts crying. She doesn't know what it is. But it's all these other girls are telling her. She's got this disease and she's freaked out. And we had to have a legit like timeout. We all sat in a circle. And I had to coach them through like saying nice things to each other.

Fish: 29:26

Did you have to explain to everyone what this disease was?

Jackie: 29:28

I didn't i Not that I remember but I remember saying you don't I don't

Cayleigh: 29:33

think you got paid enough to do that. Yeah, that's fine.

Jackie: 29:37

I was I never could have even for saw that comic. Right. That was a terrible day of camp. That was one of my last years fifth and sixth grade girls mean. Girls, how do you think about the dungeon and Dungeons and Dragons group?

Fish: 29:51

Oh, yeah, I'm glad they had a

Cayleigh: 29:55

shot. Can you bring me to your inside kid?

Fish: 30:00

Go this way. That way. Yeah, so it's supposed to take place in 81 I don't know if the Satanic Panic it started by them sometime around then parents flipping out about d&d and then news media blown it up, but no, it's cool. I'm glad that they even said d&d I don't need I don't when they first mentioned it, they didn't say Dungeons Dragons. They said d&d, which is kind of cool this like when he said like, level two dungeon master or something. I don't know if that was a thing. It's not a thing anymore. But I hope it was a thing back then. I hope they did their homework a little bit. I don't know if it was a thing back then.

Jackie: 30:35

Why didn't you do your homework? Because I had four movies to fair.

Fish: 30:42

No, but I thought it was cool. I like that. As a cool, shout out and

Jackie: 30:46

pull out the D 20.

Fish: 30:47

Yes. Today, because it was like, random. It's

Jackie: 30:51

like a random number generator. I

Fish: 30:53

don't even know if they can even to this day. If they have a system that can 100% randomize a number. I feel like you, I think it was a very hard thing for computers to do. If it was like a war, because I don't know. I don't know a whole lot about like programming, coding, computing and stuff like that, whatever. But I know for the longest time, it was very tough to have a computer randomly generate a number every single time without a pattern. Yeah,

Jackie: 31:22

yeah, Google just gave me eight. It's pretty random.

Fish: 31:25

No, it's not as random as a D 20. But that's cool, though, because he's rolling the dice like, I need. I need random numbers one through 20. Over and over and over and over again. Ah, got the perfect tool for them.

Cayleigh: 31:39

We saw the cook at breakfast today.

Fish: 31:43

Oh, wow. This guy so we went out to brunch? It's nice, fun place. Got some donuts. It's like a donut but with biscuit dough. With cinnamon sugar. I've heard about this. We make them I think ours are better at today's version. And we're gonna get overcooked. Yeah, yeah, we either way we do make it better version. We've got it down. We make it killer bowknot either way, this guy that was sitting in the table right behind us look just like the this you know, Christopher Maloney guy but his character with kind of his hair a little scruffy and like the beard and everything. And similar face structure. similars kind of tan colored. look just like him. He was there.

Cayleigh: 32:21

David made me look,

Fish: 32:22

I was like, I just kept saying, Hey, look at this guy behind us. Look at him. Look at him. He's gonna

Cayleigh: 32:27

go to bathroom tend to look like you stretching and look.

Nate: 32:31

And your thoughts? Yeah, no,

Cayleigh: 32:32

it looked like him for sure. Yeah.

Fish: 32:34

uncanny.

Jackie: 32:35

Lucky guy.

Cayleigh: 32:37

Yeah. All right. Well, we'll be right back with some final thoughts and we're back. So, first time seeing this, again, I really low expectations. Unfortunately, just because I decided to try and watch that random mini series with no context and whatnot. It was very pleasantly surprised. I don't like a lot of spoof movies, or I should say don't like a lot of modern spoof movies like I love Mel Brooks and that kind of thing. And I really appreciated the direction of spoof this went. And just the, you know, farce that it was and you know, how I think because a lot of spoof movies. For instance, the whole storyline with Bradley Cooper and Michael Ian Black would turn it into a cheap joke. Yep, that's how most spoof movies work is that they take the lowest hanging fruit and beat the hell out of it. It's the cheapest form of comedy often, this I think, was a much different take. And I can see why it has a more cult status and why you know, it didn't really go anywhere when it was released. Because I think it's just a little bit out there. But I think that's what makes it you know, so unexpected and delightful.

Jackie: 34:15

To this day, it still has a 37% on Rotten Tomatoes. But the first day of camp, the series has 93% What the font and the 10 years later has 70% That's so

Cayleigh: 34:27

weird. Yeah,

Fish: 34:28

we should go revisit those sometime or visit.

Jackie: 34:31

My I don't know it might be better after having Yes, the original

Fish: 34:35

monster can't watch those first.

Jackie: 34:37

Yeah. Oh, for sure.

Nate: 34:38

I think it would be but not everybody came back for him, right?

Jackie: 34:41

No, no. So Bradley Cooper didn't free either them I don't think but I

Fish: 34:45

think a lot of people did for the first. Yes,

Jackie: 34:48

I think most did for the first one. And then I know that Adam Scott is in the second one. Yeah, replaces someone.

Fish: 34:55

I think this film is fun. It knows what it is. It doesn't take itself too seriously, but like we mentioned earlier, kind of present some things. You think it's gonna go one way and maybe a cringy or crappy or unfortunately and they kind of spin it around and just make it more real or interesting or fun. Or more representative. Representative representational? I don't know, Representative representative

Nate: 35:23

pretty aware.

Fish: 35:25

Yes, fresher. Professor professor. Watch it again. I don't need to watch it too often. But I think it's entertaining movie. And just the cast. This is fun to see that like crazy cast when they're young. Yeah, just doing silly stuff. And I have to look like they're

Cayleigh: 35:46

having fun. If it didn't do as well because it I feel like 2001 Is that kind of around when like, the scary movie franchise happen, and not another teen movie and just just spoof movie after spoof movie after spoof movie and again, that the style of spoof that I'm not a fan of that I just I just don't get it scary movie was 2000. So yeah, I think you're I wonder and I wonder if that's why because this went in such a different direction. And perhaps the type of people who are into scary movie this is going to no offense, we could maybe cut this if it comes off really bitchy but like this is gonna go over their heads. They're not going to appreciate the humor of this if you're into something like scary movie. And if you're not into scary movie, are you going to watch a movie called wet? Hot American Summer? That's obviously a spoof movie about these camp movies? Probably not. So I think that it was like, genius and perfect, but it's like, no one thought to the right. Audience didn't think to dig here. Yeah, yeah.

Fish: 36:51

Maybe the right advertising would have helped smooth right. Yeah, target a certain market. Okay. You probably think this movie is funny and enjoy it. You should watch it.

Cayleigh: 36:59

Yeah. Yeah.

Jackie: 36:59

I mean, it's still reached its cult status. Yeah. Eventually, yeah.

Cayleigh: 37:03

As it as it should have. And, you know, that's awesome.

Jackie: 37:07

And it probably helped that a lot of actors went on to do way more right become even bigger. So I yeah, I mentioned it earlier. This doesn't feel like a movie I would love. And I love it. I laugh out loud to multiple parts of it. We didn't even talk about Molly Shannon bit. But gosh, I hear her books. Amazing stuff if anyone's interested. I hear it's very good.

Cayleigh: 37:30

I love Molly Shannon.

Jackie: 37:32

She's great. And that whole

Nate: 37:34

what's his basically your hers is one big skip the whole Yeah, her own thing. Go on the

Fish: 37:41

therapist and talk it out. Talk it out. Tell us how you really feel your hands

Nate: 37:46

are magic.

Fish: 37:48

Like barely touching. Yeah, that feels so good. It's like the

Jackie: 37:54

whole storyline so weird. And then when they're getting married and Janine Garoppolo is like as long as it's not jumbo shrimp were allergic to oxymorons. Yes, anyway, I love this movie. I would keep watching it. I remember I've only seen the series once when they initially came out. So I'd be curious to watch them again.

Fish: 38:17

You saw both series.

Jackie: 38:18

I watched both of them. I really loved this movie.

Nate: 38:23

So this is the second time I've seen it. I think I got more out of it this time. And it is it's hilarious. I mean, just I don't think I knew what to expect the first time but

Jackie: 38:34

I make you watch it right

Nate: 38:36

and then poking this. You've just everything that it pokes fun at and that it just completely farcical like Paul Rudd saying, I'll be right back and then pushing the kids out of the van on the side of the road repeatedly. Hilarious. Him and Elizabeth Banks on the dock where the kids like just not paying attention to the kids. The kids takes a speedboat driving behind them.

Jackie: 38:58

The montage with Christopher Maloney. Yes,

Nate: 39:01

I really enjoyed it. We'll watch it again. I'd like to check out the series. I don't know if I watched the series with you.

Jackie: 39:08

I don't think we did. Because I watched them when they initially came out. Yeah, I think one of them was 2017 Yeah, one's 2015. And once the other ones 2017 I

Nate: 39:16

think and American Pie too. I looked while you guys were recapping American Pie two came out in 2001. So this was around like, there were still a lot of movies coming out actively that were like not spoofing this but like but doing doing Yeah. And then the spoofs came out like not in a scary movie was obviously spoofing scream and all the other horror movies

Jackie: 39:39

of the day. And I always assumed this would be an American Pie, which I didn't particularly like.

Cayleigh: 39:44

Yeah. All right. So we took a look at the camp counselor side of camp. Next week. We're campers and we are going to look at heavyweights Follow us on Instagram at couples cup podcast and on Twitter at couples cup pod to keep up with our latest updates. If you have a question for us or a pairing suggestion, send us an email to couples cut podcast@gmail.com Be sure to follow us wherever you listen. And if you liked what you heard, leave us a review. Thanks for listening