Experience Camp Hope's recent takeover by Tony Perkis (Ben Stiller) in Heavyweights (Judd Apatow) in our final part of the summer series.
(This episode contains spoilers)
Where to watch Heavyweights?
Disney +
* As of July 2022 in the USA
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Experience Camp Hope's recent takeover by Tony Perkis (Ben Stiller) in Heavyweights (Judd Apatow) in our final part of the summer series.
(This episode contains spoilers)
Where to watch Heavyweights?
Disney +
* As of July 2022 in the USA
For more shenanigans, follow us on Instagram @couplescutpodcast or TikTok @couplescutpodcast, Twitter @couplescutpod or send us an e-mail at CouplesCutPodcast@gmail.com
Transcript available on our website: https://CouplesCut.buzzprout.com/
Well, do you know why graham crackers were invented? The guy who invented graham crackers was part of the same religious cult that the Kellogg brothers were a part of. Wow invented graham crackers as a wholesome snack for children of this coal to help promote a more wholesome lifestyle to prevent them from getting in pure feelings.
Jackie:Yikes.
Nate:kind of works. I don't think about sex when I'm eating graham crackers.
Fish:It drives you up I'm so so glad to know that turned to a desert crackers. You got abstinence on the brain. Heather Graham cracker keep you going.
Cayleigh:Hello, and welcome to couples. A podcast where two couples the goods and the fishes Hi. Give their commentary on a fine pairing movies. Spoiler whole. So anyway, on that note, welcome to couples cut. We're talking heavy weights. And I know what we're gonna go for it this week's rapid fire. What is your snack of summer? Your favorite summer it's not summer until I have or you would never have it in winter is you're having this in summer. I'm Kaylee. I have to have at least a few s'mores every summer. It's a requirement. There was one summer right didn't have a single smore and then I didn't realize it until autumn and I was like what the fuck? And now it's like in the forefront of my brain every summer that I have to have. S'mores.
Fish:This is David. And probably maybe just some fresh watermelon just chopped up
Cayleigh:we're growing watermelon though. And I'm hoping that will make me like
Fish:the little ones like sugar. Yeah,
Nate:that's gonna be awesome.
Cayleigh:No, why don't you like watermelon?
Jackie:I don't know. I don't like the taste.
Fish:The texture is a little weird, but the taste is fine.
Cayleigh:I don't mind watermelon. Like a watermelon Jolly Ranchers.
Jackie:Yeah, artificial watermelons. Great. Yeah.
Nate:I think it might be the texture for me too. I also never liked the seeds.
Fish:But it's fun to spit them out. Yeah,
Nate:my family used to get watermelon all the time in the summer. Yeah. You know, when we go on vacation and stuff prep up by the Mississippi River. They always like everybody would eat it and I just I never cared for it. This
Cayleigh:is gonna sound like I'm making a joke. But like, for real though. It's just it's very watery. Yeah, it's like it's like a Dilaudid Yeah. tastes like It tastes like you took melon and soaked it in water. Yeah, it's like this is
Fish:gross. Nature's Lacroix.
Jackie:It was sweeter. Yes.
Cayleigh:Nature's Lacroix.
Nate:I don't like Lacroix.
Fish:But there's much more flavor than the lacroix has. But it's on that, which is
Cayleigh:why I am I'm doing the fool's errand for growing it ourselves. So we can pick it as like so it's super fucking ripe. And we're doing the baby watermelons so they should be sweeter so that's why I'm hoping I'll actually like these ones. It'll change my mind. But that's the deal. I've never met anytime I mentioned that. I don't like watermelon. Everyone is like, Get out of here. You fucking leopard. So this is the first time ever so Whoa, my first time was some kinship on this topic. Anyway, this derailed quick, quicker than I expect
Fish:or plant those huge the watermelon plan. Oh yeah. You're thinking the pumpkin. Oh, the Pumpkin Plan.
Nate:Very Leafy, right.
Fish:Oh, our watermelon plants tiny. But the pump. pumpkin plants
Cayleigh:has struggled this whole time since we started the garden with keeping the pumpkin the butternut squash and the watermelon apart.
Fish:They're all the same thing.
Cayleigh:They're all in different locations to
Fish:boards until I started seeing some like visible fruit growing and then it's all the same.
Jackie:I get that
Cayleigh:big leaf literally. Moving moving moving around the circle. Okay.
Fish:Tomato plants gonna run.
Jackie:This is Jackie Meyer. It'll be freezing pops.
Cayleigh:Oh, yeah. That's a good one.
Jackie:Love free.
Fish:Throw another one out there. BLT.
Jackie:BLT is good, but I would eat that year round.
Cayleigh:I would but it's hard to find a good tomato. Yeah.
Fish:Tomato, tomato on summer.
Cayleigh:Oh my gosh, Guy was my plan. I mean, it's summer. It's true. But like
Fish:you'll see party.
Cayleigh:I kidding. Right? Whether it happens whether to buy myself or not. I don't care. I'm getting a bread machine because I can't need for shit. I've seen enough videos of people being like, listen, millennials are gatekeeping snobs who are all like, you got to do everything by hand and we got to turn around butter and cottage Coralife style. Bread machines are awesome. You throw the ingredients and you press start. You have fucking bread. So I'm gonna have fresh ass fucking bread. We're going to have fresh fucking tomatoes from the garden. We're going to have the best fucking BLTs I'm so ready. We'll have you guys over Yes. Fresh bread. Oh, fresh. to use Yeah, we're growing lettuce too. We got lettuce. Oh, nice.
Jackie:Now you just have to get a pig. Yeah.
Fish:peih Gee,
Nate:but then it gets really sad. Yeah, sure to get attached to the look away. I'll say goodbye to the pig.
Cayleigh:That'll do pig.
Nate:That'll do. Alright, so this is Nate. I don't know if there's a food that really says it's summer to me. I was gonna say ice cream but you know I eat ice cream or
Fish:ice cream truck though.
Nate:Who ice cream truck is a good one and specifically, I would say
Fish:which one was your favorite? The rockin show.
Cayleigh:Oh my gosh, everyone go around and see your favorite.
Nate:Let me say my piece. Me the waffle cone with like the pre dipped chocolate choco taco.
Fish:Oh, oh. Oh, yeah, I thought you were talking about drumstick. But the tacos drumstick. It's like
Cayleigh:it looks like a drumstick. Looks like
Fish:it was pretty legit. Yeah. I think it's better than drumsticks. Yeah,
Jackie:I agree.
Nate:Oh, and what was the other the like the Dreamsicle or the orange sherbert push up pops. Yeah, it was like
Fish:a Flintstone push it Yeah,
Cayleigh:I have those in my freezer. Remember those from the
Fish:ice cream truck and stuff. But the very end they were great when you get to the very end and it was like melting gooey. Yep. Yeah. Like near the plastic area. Yeah, it was kind of gross. It almost was like plastic and like, what what am I eating right now? But the rest was really good.
Nate:You thought too much as a kid.
Fish:I was like, the like the the heads of things. Like there was like spider man. Oh, yeah. That was always the bubblegum was gross as fuck. Yeah, but this Their heads were cool, because the ice cream was pretty good for that price.
Jackie:Ice cream sandwiches all the way. cookies. Cookie cookie ice cream sandwich.
Fish:Oh,
Nate:I don't know that. I've actually had one of my favorite. You should never had that. Okay, Ice Cream Sandwich is a plenty but I don't know that I've had one.
Cayleigh:Cookie. I told house. We sold those at the movie theater. All the time. They called
Fish:like a chip or sometimes
Jackie:in Vegas. They have a whole story like you pick the cookies that you want the types of cookies and the type of ice cream like shelled them. Yeah. Really good.
Fish:Things like that in Naperville. Oh, wow. That's the cookies. Oh, there's like 10 different kind of cookie. Those Yeah, good mix the cookie dough and the ice cream. They'll do it for you. But they also have like five or 10 different cookies for cookies. You know? Sandwich? I can't leave you ever had that. I'm not. But you have to have the right one because if the cookie. If it's the wrong sandwich and you bite into it, the ice cream squirts out the side. If it's stored. It's kind of squishy cookie. Yeah. And it's got to be the right ice cream to actually I can't be like a soft serve. It's gotta be Yeah, it's gotta be.
Jackie:Yeah. Okay. Would
Nate:you say your favorite?
Cayleigh:I liked it was very specific, but and I don't think they exist anymore. But during my childhood, they were on every ice cream truck and it was a Snoopy head. And it was vanilla ice cream was the white parts of Snoopy and then the black parts of Snoopy was chocolate ice cream and the back was dipped in chocolate. Oh, and I would get that every single time. No Show. Uh huh. That sounds good. And then I remember one it's like a core memory. I had to have been so little. I went over my grandparents were like babysitting me or something. And I went over there and after dinner my grandpa had a box of Snoopy bars. And I lost my fucking mind. Holy shit. I didn't know you could just buy them at the store. Can you though? I mean not anymore. If anybody out there knows how to get in the a Snoopy bar
Fish:if you have a 10 year old Cindy bar in your freezer we mail it to send it over and dry ice
Cayleigh:I would literally die on slide.
Nate:Another another favorite one. I guess that does make me feel like it's summer would be a Dilly bar from Dairy Queen. Oh, yeah.
Cayleigh:I almost bought some chocolate.
Jackie:Yeah. Snoop Xuan strawberry.
Nate:I don't know. I've only ever had the vanilla with the chocolate show. Jackie.
Jackie:I remember the Snoop you want I just googled that. I do remember that.
Fish:Do you remember they also had a couple different kinds there was like it was like a bar of ice cream and then it was like dipped in little things and there was like a cookies and cream one and like a strawberry one. Yeah.
Cayleigh:They still make those good humor. Yeah, brands those kind of fun. All right, well, now that we've properly discussed snacks and foods of the summer Dippin Dots. Let's pop into let's pop into a plot.
Jackie:Jerry's parents decided to send him to camp hope, a boy's weight loss camp that gives them freedom from judgment and a summer of fun activities. When he arrives however, the entire camp learns that the passionate friendly owners have declared bankruptcy and have sold the camp to the fitness obsessed Tony Perkins Jr. Tony attempts to shame the Boys into weight loss takes away meals and punishes them with excessive exercise. After failing to lose weight during the check in, Tony forces the campers into a 20 mile hike. Tired of being bullied the boys trap Tony and lock him in a cage. They show their parents the torture they had been subjected to under Tony's rule. Jerry's parents stick up for him and the campus handed over to longtime counselor Pat underpads leadership they learned to have fun while gaining competence and defeat the over competitive rival camp in the annual competition. Tony is taken away by his father and becomes a healing crystals door to door sales.
Fish:Fish facts heavyweights released on February 17 1995, and with an unclear budget, possibly around 10 million, went on to make over 17 million. Directed by Steven Brill, written by Steven Brill and Judd Apatow starring Tom gallon Aaron Swartz, Ben Stiller and more. This is one of the first movies that we've done or I think the first movie we've done where it's it wasn't very clear what the budget of the movie was.
Cayleigh:The Amazon movie we did didn't give us any financials.
Jackie:Oh yeah. Which
Fish:is weird and like what kind of hidden shenanigans were going on with this.
Nate:So quite the cast like a Mighty Ducks reunion.
Fish:And the Steelers. Yep,
Jackie:yes. Yeah, both his parents.
Cayleigh:I never knew until this watch that it was written by Judd Apatow. No, no, it wasn't until it flashed on the screen this because I guess I was just never looking for it before watching you know, thinking about that kind of stuff. And yeah, I was like, What the fuck?
Nate:Yeah. The other big name that's more in directing and producing now is Paul Feig?
Cayleigh:Yes. Which he was
Jackie:bridesmaids. Bridesmaids, Ghostbusters.
Cayleigh:He also did directed a ton of episodes on the office. So and
Jackie:I knew him from Sabrina. I was just gonna say is very recognizable.
Nate:I don't know. And a very, very young teen and Thompson.
Cayleigh:Yes. It's interesting and forever. Yeah. With our
Jackie:summer series. That's interesting. We saw early Spielberg and now we're seeing early Apatow.
Nate:We can act like that was planned. We will.
Cayleigh:I have not? Has anyone gone? Did anybody go to sleepaway camp?
Nate:What is overnight so summer camp? stay overnight? Just I was just called it summer camp.
Fish:Yeah. Just through scouts, but yes,
Nate:scouts as well. Different varieties of it. But yes,
Jackie:I did like YMCA type camps a few years in a row. Is that sleep away? Or
Cayleigh:just you know, asleep away?
Jackie:Yeah. Yeah.
Fish:It's sleep away an actual term and just
Nate:there's day camp. Yeah, different parts of the country.
Jackie:Like I was a counselor for day camps, but I went to sleepaway camps as a camper
Fish:just never heard of sleepaway camp. I never heard that phrase.
Cayleigh:If you just say summer camp doesn't Yeah,
Fish:well, overnight camp makes more sense. Yeah. I think I've heard of overnight camp before but not sleepaway?
Nate:Yeah, I think it's different parts of the country call it different things. Yeah. We did day camps when we were younger. But as we got into like, in the boy scouts and stuff, my brother and I did a lot of like, overnight camps and that would usually minimum be a week. We're doing
Jackie:all sorts of fun. Like learning how to sail got to go out on sailboat sail
Cayleigh:never went to camp. Not even day camp.
Fish:We can just there's adult camps now. Now. I
Cayleigh:just don't know that I like it sounds fun. The idea of it, but like I don't want to sleep in a hot musty.
Fish:spheric Yeah, pretty much is. It's very
Jackie:Yeah, but it's very nostalgic watching this and Wet Hot American Summer. The cabins felt very realistic.
Cayleigh:Yeah, I believe it. So I would have liked to have done it when I was younger and like, you know, more mentally equipped to, you know,
Jackie:be uncomfortable. Musty.
Cayleigh:berec Oh,
Nate:I also don't know that I ever had like an actual cabin like that.
Jackie:Oh, it definitely
Fish:made sense. You know.
Nate:We had the green canvas tan solid palette.
Jackie:Scouts is different than like, sleepaway camp though. Yeah.
Cayleigh:I don't know if it counts.
Fish:Well, with summer camp, we have not count. Yeah, we're doing merit badges. So like, I would go do basket weaving in the morning. And I would go to like, you know, swimming and like, you know, kayaking or canoeing?
Cayleigh:I guess to me, it's different because like Boy Scouts is like a whole program that you're committed to all the time it doesn't. We're a summer camp that kind of has this vibe of like, you meet these people over the summer. And once the summer is over, you're never gonna see him again. Unless you happen to sign up for the same camp next to
Nate:me. You don't go you go.
Fish:No, you interact with a lot of other. There's like a lot of other troops.
Jackie:Like that time I went to Camp with Danielle Panabaker who is now very famous, yes.
Cayleigh:I just feel like scouts I'm not trying to discredit scouts or like, like invalidated I'm just thinking that its own big can of worms and its own whole thing that if you went to sleepaway camp, you wouldn't relate to
Jackie:it. Did you have like camp dances?
Nate:No, it wasn't COVID. Yeah.
Jackie:See, not sleepaway camp. Yeah. Obviously boy, little dances. We watched Princess Bride had movie nights.
Cayleigh:Do you guys do skits? Yeah. Okay,
Fish:especially at the end of the week.
Nate:And we shot guns and bow and arrow. Wilderness Survival.
Cayleigh:On the activities isn't what I'm saying is like the differentiation. It's more the like, isolated incidents that a sleepaway camp is compared to the like full on situation.
Fish:Can I lead us through a a classic chanter cheer, that we would do? Summer Camp?
Jackie:You weren't at summer camp?
Nate:Yes, we're Wait,
Jackie:can I can I say one last thing about the summer camp before we go into the chant?
Fish:Only if you acknowledge this for summer
Nate:camp. How many years did you do a sleepaway camp?
Jackie:At least three but I was gonna say with the movie one thing that took me out of it. What had American Summer was accurate, heavy weights when Tony is throwing the water glasses of water on the floor and stepping over him to show how tough he is. Now a very distinct memories of those plastic cups with the juice the camp juice and their plastic juice.
Fish:total budget so
Jackie:it took me out of heavyweights when he's breaking glasses because it's summer camp. You never had glass glasses. That
Cayleigh:makes sense. Who the fuck is giving children class glasses right? Video.
Jackie:Seriously? News right there. Okay, let's hear the chant.
Fish:You can substitute the name of like your patrol. So for example, if you are like green patrol, it'd be like I'm just gonna start it. But what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna do the whole thing, but I'm gonna put our name in it the couple's good. So you can you can be like, We are the green patrol the mighty mighty green patrol, and there's more to it. But instead of saying a color and a patrol, which is what we would do, every patrol would have a certain color. I'm gonna substitute the couple's cut and after I go through a verse, I want you guys to join me for the second verse. Right? We are the couples got the mighty mighty couples got everywhere we go. People want to know who we are. So we tell them joining us you've heard me say it twice what? We are the couple sky mighty mighty couple. Scott. That's great.
Jackie:I think it should have turned into a round.
Nate:I don't like the summer camp shaming that you're throwing.
Cayleigh:Or taking it like such a weird way. I'm saying boy scouts is like leaps and bounds ahead of summer camp. Summer Camp is where parents who don't want to deal with your children drop their kids off so that they can have a month off and totally shave. You know, however long I went, but like and they just do like jackets, they paint nails if you're going to girls camp. I know some people went to tennis camp or some people who went to you know, like sports camp and like just kind of dig around and do child related activity. Let
Fish:me guess what you guys didn't do any cool chairs because you couldn't join in mind.
Cayleigh:I'm saying boy scouts is like its own thing, not because it's not good enough to be summer camp because it's way more involved than summer camp. It's a whole culture that you could not understand. Unless you're a boy scouts, obviously,
Jackie:thank you. She was sure some people some people still put it on their resumes.
Fish:See if we, if we all did the chant as a team we could have used that for like a cold open or something but you guys didn't want to do it.
Cayleigh:Don't do that for coal open flipping.
Jackie:That was remember we summon something.
Fish:It was an evil spirit. This would take the spirit and put it away. Put it back in its place.
Cayleigh:So anywho heavyweights, we're really here. I want to be real with you. Okay, so this is my probably, I think I saw it when I was younger. I saw it a couple years ago again, as a refresher, it
Fish:was the first time I saw it. Oh, yeah.
Jackie:Oh, a couple of years ago.
Cayleigh:And then we watched it again for this. It's not I don't dislike it. I don't hate it or anything like that. I think it does certain things really well. But I don't I'm not the Democrat thick I think I think I'm just not me. I don't know. I'm not like big into Ben Stiller. So that's probably an aspect. It is very quotable, though. Do it.
Jackie:Do it. Lars.
Cayleigh:Exactly.
Fish:But I think this is the same character as his character in dodgeball. Yeah.
Cayleigh:It could have been a pairing. Yeah. But dodgeball
Fish:is great. Yeah. And
Jackie:about Ben Stiller is doing severance, if you guys have watched that on Apple TV, fantastic. But it's, he's not in it. You wouldn't expect
Nate:him to directing or producing or
Jackie:think he's producing.
Cayleigh:I know he's driven like getting into directing. And that like he kind of did an interview where he talked to talks about how like, comedy isn't his love or his interest that he really didn't. That's not he's always wanted to do drama. And so that's why he's digging into that.
Jackie:Yeah, he's he's directing severance
Nate:with Adam Scott. It's pretty good.
Jackie:It feels completely different from 90s. Ben Stiller that I think we all picture right. I think Ben Stiller,
Cayleigh:I will say this is probably my favorite Ben Stiller movie.
Jackie:He plays a good villain. Yes.
Fish:This is your favorite Ben Stiller movie?
Cayleigh:Well, I think that's more common to say, well, I don't dislike this movie. I want to make that clear. I don't want that to be pinned on me ocular hates heavyweights, I don't hate it. I don't even dislike it. I just don't think I would ever, like go out of my way to watch this movie. Because it's just not super, it has its moments, it has some really nice moments. But again, there's just certain moments that I can't quite get past especially knowing what I like, we've kind of brought up Judd Apatow a couple of times. And on this watch, I feel like it was I was way more critical. hearing some of the stuff that he says about how he enjoys like, basically torturing his actors and stuff like that. So anywhere where I've given this film, like, the benefit of the doubt, I think I don't give it that anymore. Knowing his involvement, if that makes sense. Like for instance, not to get too heavy
Fish:weight
Cayleigh:on this, because it's you know, sort of light hearted kids movie, but like, there's not a single overweight female. Every female in this movie is can you know, like, up to the harsh standards of Hollywood society's demands of physical attraction.
Jackie:There are very many, many women in this movie.
Cayleigh:There's never been any women, but they're used as tools, we get the nurse. And they very explicitly make her quote unquote conventionally attractive as order, you know, to be like a prize for the, you know, men to like, not literally fight over, but we kind of have that back and forth of you know, the one guy, yeah, Pat liking her, but then the lars, lars is, you know, vying for her as well and what have you and then they do the school dance or not the school dance, the camp dance, you know, specifically to humiliate the boys and every single girl there is, you know, skinny and conventionally attractive. And so I just think that it's interesting that the nurse couldn't also be a relatable character for the content that this film is supposed to be delivering now.
Jackie:I'm gonna guess I was expecting it to be a lot worse.
Cayleigh:Oh, for sure. Agreed. It's not nearly as bad as it could have been. Yeah, I,
Jackie:then it's actually very heartwarming, even. Yes, I hadn't seen this in years. And I remember liking it when I initially saw it. I didn't see it when it came out. But it is surprising. Like there's no compared to now in that and where we get fat shaming, right? You don't really have that in this movie. And when you do, it's the bad guys. And they're very clearly the bad guy that are trying to make them feel terrible. And
Fish:then the kids try to turn it around when they when the when one of the kids he's bigger, taller. Like the tallest kid hops on the scale. He's like, Oh, I think I think Steeler says oh, you're the fattest kid here. And then all the kids cheer. Yeah. Like, it's like, it's, you know, they're on his side, like, hey, you know, we're all in this together.
Cayleigh:And then I also just because we were mentioning the scale scene, just another thing where I'm like, I don't you know, it's probably just that it's a product of its time. I don't it just like, I don't know, someone were eating disorders have been something that I've you know, seen and whatever. I don't love that. They actually called out real weight numbers. Like a child steps on the scale and he says, Oh, you're 165 young child who may be weighs 106 Do you five pounds? Yeah, it's gonna feel fucking terrible. I think it's much more intense and harmful. When you get real numbers. In those instances, yeah, I get that it probably wasn't trying to be harmful given the year that it was released. But it doesn't matter if it's harmful. It's harmful, whether you intend it to be or not. So I can't I wonder how many again, it's heartwarming, it has a good message. But I think there's so many other little things stuck with it, that it could end up being a much more harmful movie than it set out to be. And the fact that Judd Apatow was involved in it makes me I used to overlook those things. And now I can't help but think, you know, just some of the things he said he seems like maybe the kind of person who would have dubious thoughts on comedy, and dubious, you know, I don't know.
Fish:dooby dooby doo.
Cayleigh:That's just my thoughts.
Fish:That's a lot of thoughts. Do you guys taking a little lighter direction? So Ben Stiller's character is kind of meant to parody a lot of those fitness like gurus who are trying to pawn off exercise equipment on infomercials. And I think one of the most famous guys from that time Tony Liddell is LDS, remember those infomercials? He's, he's in there. He's got his like ponytail. He said, It makes me good. You know, he's striding away. Yeah, I think as well. So it's kind of brings back silly memories of his old infomercials. From from home equipment. Yeah, home gym equipment. Okay,
Nate:get this. Yeah, I was expecting this movie to be worse. And I think your points are valid. Kaylee, I think what also made this not or made it less worse. Go ahead.
Fish:Had you seen it before?
Nate:Yeah. Okay. You know, they go to Camp expecting one thing, and then they find out that the owners have filed bankruptcy, and now they're stuck in a situation. And I think that excuses a lot of the stuff that they do throughout the film. Because everybody's stuck in it. And they, like, they find out they're hiding his letters. They're hiding their letters, right. They're not sending them out. And they're all stuck in the situation. And it's how they deal with it. As opposed to, hey, we're sending you to this camp. And we know it's bad, right?
Jackie:Yeah. Yeah, cuz that initial video is
Fish:camp looked really cool with the old owners. Yeah. That was like a pretty, pretty fun time for anybody.
Jackie:Yeah. And they talked about it being free of judgment and just having a relaxing summer. And yeah, they presented very well on the beginning.
Cayleigh:Another thing that this could have been paired with, other than dodgeball with the Ben Stiller characters being so similar is holes because the guy who goes to their house with the videotape to try and sell the camp is a camp counselor in holes. He plays Mr. Pender Lansky, Tim Blake
Fish:Nelson,
Jackie:from Oh, brother, we're at. Damn, we're in a tight spot.
Nate:Yeah, so let's talk about the the kidnapping and imprisonment of camp counselors just being like, Yeah, we're good with this.
Fish:I think I fell asleep during that burn.
Jackie:Yeah, you've seen this before, though, right? Yeah, I don't remember.
Nate:So the kids revolt, right. And they they basically tie up Ben Stiller. And they keep him in a cage and the cage is electrified. Oh, yeah. So the cap counselors, the old camp counselor see this? And they're like, We can't do this and they go in. They take the duct tape off of his mouth, and he starts ripping the counselor a new one. He's like, No, we're good. Puts the tape back on and closes the door. And he's like, let's go. And basically they keep him locked up for I don't know how long it was a week. Yeah, it
Jackie:had to have been a little while. Yeah. Which is
Nate:not okay.
Cayleigh:I don't know. I'm, I'm fine with that.
Jackie:Or leaving Lars for the bears.
Fish:Buddy
Jackie:how fun did that blob look? Awesome.
Fish:They could have done a better so if you jump if two people jump off at the same time like ARM and ARM and land more. You want to land like at the end and the other person wants to be pretty much right at the end. For the most I think
Cayleigh:effect Yeah, David the whole time cap like they didn't you're not even going that high. Why were you can go so much higher.
Fish:You can watch people 25 or higher feet off those things. And we've done one in the past. I've always wanted to get big air if you do it right. I
Jackie:feel like those can't exist anymore, right? Why? They look so dangerous.
Cayleigh:trampolines still exist. I know a lot of doctors who won't let their kids on trampolines. Watch I think it's like 40% of like childhood adolescent injuries are from trampolines and a lot of them can be fatal.
Nate:I know multiple people who have broken arms and legs falling off a trampolines.
Fish:I think they used to have a I'm pretty sure they don't make it anymore. But it was like, it was like an inner tube that you'd pull on on a boat. Right, but it was like aerodynamics. So I remember you'd fly on those. Like,
Jackie:oh, we used to do that. Every
Fish:summer 30 feet in the air you whatever fun
Jackie:well, with the big tubes. Yeah, the like that you would fly though. We could pretty high did these ones are
Cayleigh:designed
Fish:wire. Oh can get air okay, and literally would take off and you'd just be flying. Sounds great air like 20 feet up. But if you fell, you'd be fucked up.
Nate:Sounds dangerous?
Cayleigh:No, I remember those coming out. Because almost immediately people were getting like, critically injured. Yeah.
Fish:But that would be fun. I would write that though. It makes sense to be on that right
Cayleigh:now. You learned nothing from your ski trip.
Fish:You just hold on. I held onto my poles. I had my poles in my hand. Oh my god. Well, they were shot to my wrist.
Nate:Yeah, we used to go tubing and get arrow.
Jackie:Fly. They're so fun.
Nate:But not not like fly like that. But I've seen back in the day and like boating magazines, the things you're talking about where they're like aerodynamic. Another one I saw was like, it was like a cylinder like the tube went around, up and down. Like they would sit on the water. So it was you could like spin. Yes. Yeah. Do you like it like an MRI machine? That's cool.
Jackie:How do you guys tube and not lose their bottoms?
Nate:It happens? No, I
Cayleigh:went tubing with a friend and her brother lost two shorts. Oh, yeah.
Jackie:Well, because I remember
Fish:the time on women's bottoms don't have strings do they? Know. Elastic? Like we actually have a string we could tie? Yeah. Yeah, I've had a women that lose their bottoms, that you
Jackie:wouldn't be better with one piece but
Fish:tie that sucker on tight and collarbone
Nate:like the knees. Just drag
Jackie:and then let go right away.
Cayleigh:No, I really did like again. I shouldn't have opened that I didn't. It's not like a movie. I was like, looking forward to watch because I just think that that sounds harsher than I mean it. I do love the performances by the kids. It does feel like you're watching a kid's movie but it's not it's it's still palatable. Yeah. You know, it's it's still well acted. It's still, you know, compelling storytelling.
Nate:It feels it feels very 90s Disney. Yes. Yeah. Like and it does it like Mighty Ducks reunion is no joke. A lot of the same kids were in it. First Mighty Ducks came out in 92. This came out in 95. Surprisingly, it was I didn't realize that it was that old with the goalie. Like the competition at the end is like perfect example of like 90s Disney kids movie. It's like, like, Okay, we're gonna battle for it. It's like they're the underdogs and they're gonna come out on top and you know, you get the 20 Minute. Basically, it's a 20 minute scene montage of the Hall of knowledge and then the go kart race and everything like that and a little bit fantastical with him jumping over the go kart. It's just a very like for a kids movie. It's very much Yeah, they did a
Fish:good thing in his captain's wings on Yes,
Cayleigh:I do. One thing I do want to give this movie credit for is that the boys don't have to change to win in the end. Yeah. Like I think that's the most important thing. And you know why? Like I say I don't have nearly as harsh of a review as I could. You're waiting for it to be like that. Yep. And I do think that they also send a message that for them to change would be bad. We you know, when they break into the Ben Stiller's characters cabin, and they, you know, pull the red sheet off of the poster and it's thumb, but they're, you know, they're made skinny. So we as the viewer aren't like, hopeful for them. We're like, Oh, what the fuck is that? That's super fucked up. Yeah. And so like I said, I do appreciate the messaging in that regard, for sure. And I think it does it really well. In these instances. Yeah.
Fish:I think this is the kind of movie where if you if you see it when you're younger as a kid and enjoy it, you're just gonna enjoy it or appreciate it more as an adult. I'm not comparing it to sandlot, but I feel like with sandlot, if you don't see it as a kid, you can still almost as equally appreciate it, enjoy it. Watch it anytime. But I feel this movie is a little different. I grew up comparing the two but just I kind of get that vibe. Yeah, yeah. I feel like if I would have seen this as a kid I might have liked it and thought it was more entertaining. Funny, I didn't. And I think it's just okay as an adult, I'm just kind of so so on it.
Cayleigh:Especially because like I say, think I did see it as a kid, but I didn't really strike a chord with me. But again, I don't, it wasn't for me. You know what I mean? I don't you know, not that as a woman, you can't find these girlfriend, these stories compelling or relatable. I just wasn't relatable, you know, or like up my alley, I guess. So. was more giving it a fair chance when I saw it again, as an adult.
Fish:The scene that was really disturbing is when the kid lifted his shirt up. He's got these melted chocolate bars. And the kids started like, the one kid wipes it off. And he literally, I don't think it's fake. He's like, licking it like eating it. That's just not right. I didn't like I don't think it would have done that as a kid. chocolate melted over your friend would you like wipe it off and eat it? And I don't think it would have done that.
Nate:We want to take a break. Wrap Up.
Cayleigh:Do a two at Lars. And we're back. So yeah, final thoughts. Again, I do it's It's heartwarming. It's a very light watch. It's very easy. I do think that the overall message is good. It's probably one of my more liked rolls for Ben Stiller just because it's so over the top and hilarious without getting into that territory that he gets into that I'm not a fan of or it's just like a little too, like very quotable. fun seeing you know, a lot of these actors Young. Also, we didn't call out who plays his dad.
Jackie:Yeah, George blue. Thank you get that nice heartwarming moment to where his parents at the end are like, Oh, wait. Yeah, I'm
Cayleigh:gonna sucks.
Fish:Yeah, I mean, for me. It's movies, alright. The kids in the acting doesn't make it seem real and honest and kind of down to earth and fun. But overall, I think it's just okay.
Jackie:I think it's a very light, easy to watch movie. I didn't see it until I was an adult as well. I never watched it when I was kid. But it's it's nice, heartwarming movie. And it's a classic. You know, underdogs when everyone feels good at the end, even the original camp counselor, Pat gets his happy ending. So it's very nice. Nice feeling.
Nate:Yeah, overall, I mean, I do have some nostalgia around it from watching as a kid. That being said, watching it this time, I'm like, it's only okay. There's nothing fantastic about it. And it does feel I don't know how to describe it other than very, like 90s Disney. There's a lot it seemed like there was a formula. And you can change some of the specifics. But they repeated the formula and they still do today. They repeat the formula very well.
Jackie:I know. Yeah. The Disney thing really strikes a chord and Yeah, I agree. you know, we're trying not to compare movies, but we already did a little bit. I feel like with this one you feel like you're watching a kid's movie. And with sandlot. You don't quite as much feel like you're watching a movie about kids. Right?
Cayleigh:And I feel like the writing is a little bit and
Nate:the big difference.
Cayleigh:Yeah. No, I completely Yeah, it totally is giving Disney. If you had told me that this wasn't in theaters that this was a Disney Channel Original Movie. I would believe you Yeah, spot on. Yeah, they are very formula attic. Those Disney underdog movies. We're making up all kinds of words this episode.
Nate:All right.
Cayleigh:All right. So next week, we have another trivia episode. And then we will go back to programming as usual. So we hope you enjoyed this little vacation if you all summer vacation. But we'll be pulling in the driveway and going home soon. Follow us on Instagram at couples cup podcast and on Twitter at couples cup pod to keep up with our latest updates. If you have a question for us, or a pairing suggestion, send us an email to couples cut podcast@gmail.com Be sure to follow us wherever you listen. And if you like what you heard, leave us a review. Thanks for listening